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scrutiny is only just beginning, inspectors from the federal aviation administration are on-site at the seventh 37 factory auditing, quality control on capitol hill, the top senate khader is overseeing aviation, say, boeing executives must face public hearings. >> we have a lot of questions about manufacturing process. >> who screwed up. we don't know, but it's obvious somebody screwed up in axing one executive, boeing promoted another to a new position overseeing quality control. the results of the faa's audit of boeing quality are due any day now, wolf muntean reporting, pete, thank you. finally tonight, commander president biden's german shepherd, bit us secret service personnel in at least 24 incidents over the white house and other locations that according to internal documents obtained by cnn, more than ten of those incidents required medical treatment a source close to the bidens tells cnn the biden family
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feels awful over these incidents. thanks very much for watching the news continues next on cnn >> outfront. next, damage control, republicans scrambling to contain the fallout after the former fbi informant at the center of their impeachment an investigation was indicted for lying, defending their investigation, and quizzing the president's brother today behind closed doors. plus new details. the boyfriend of the american tand is speaking out tonight after she was arrested and charged with treason for allegedly donating just over $50 to a ukrainian charity tonight, he shares what he's hearing from in his girlfriend imprisoned in russia. and a cnn exclusive, we now know a truck carrying much needed aid to thousands of people in gaza was hit bind israeli airstrike, despite the promise of a safe route. let's go outfront
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>> good evening. i'm brianna keilar in for erin burnett outfront tonight, detained in russia. new details tonight about the thirty-three-year-old from los angeles who is now behind bars in russia charged with treason after allegedly donating just about $51 to a ukrainian charity, her boyfriend, chris van, her dean will be joining us here in a moment. this all coming as vladimir putin is punishing mourners arrested at memorials for alexey navalny with military registration summonses according to an independent russian human rights group, one detain man telling russian media that authorities threatened to break his fingers if he didn't sign the military papers. and that comes as russia continues to gain ground along ukraine's eastern front, one soldier seen here hoisting a soviet victor three flag over a newly captured village after a key victory seizing the eastern city of abdivka. nick
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paton walsh is outfront live for us in southern ukraine and nick, russian soldiers meeting more ukrainian resistance where you are, tell us what's happening on the ground yeah, i in multiple locations is pretty clear that even ukrainian officials at the highest level can't deny there's bad news. president volodymyr zelenskyy referring to four separate parts of the frontline where he said ukraine was doing sorry, someone background here. you're hearing in her son a constant artillery jewel, and it's dark round. people give the lights off, so don't become a target. now one of the areas that's been mentioned as a place of potential russian progress claimed at the highest levels in moscow by the defense minister speaking to vladimir putin is in fact just across the river from where i'm standing, and placed cool krynky which has been a place where ukrainian pushed across the river trying to get towards crimea, held that position a great peril, many losses, and now russia yesterday claim that essentially clean the
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ukrainians away from their ukraine denied that vehemently and even drone video of rush and putting up a flag and then fleeing that particular area. but still, it's one of four places where russia claims they're putting a lot of pressure on the ukrainians. another one is near avdiivka, where ukrainian commanders say russia still has enough strength to keep pushing forward on to the next village. there's pressure to the south of that two near an area called marinka and also to the north of avdiivka near kharkiv, an area called kupiansk all bad news for ukraine being no doubt and volodymyr zelenskyy talking about all those four separate areas, whilst also saying, look in the last week we've taken out seven russian fighter jets, but kyiv now having to thread this complex balance between being as canada's they can to their western partners about how that lack of western aid is translating into real losses of territory and men on the battlefield, but also keep morale high, but still, it's fascinatingly awful frankly, for those watching this war, brianna on ukrainian side to
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observe how many places now it's clear ukraine is under intense pressure. brianna we'll see if that is heard here in washington or if it continues to fall on some of these deaf ears. nick paton walsh, thank you for that report outfront now, abbas gallyamov, he is a former speech writer for vladimir putin. abbas, thank you for being with us tonight and you've heard vladimir putin vowing he will push ahead with russia making gains in eastern ukraine, most notably in the key city of abdivka. what do you think this does to putin's plans in ukraine? since he's gaining territory, there this is really getting to strengthen his domestic standing and it will really press this >> you know, this there's displeasure, there's discontent, which was obviously growing in russia. they
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selection campaign, which is on the way in russia now it started in a really bad way for him. and so this victory is now breaking the trend. and the negative trend. now again is on the winning end it's solidifying his control over the country. and it means he might actually get control strong enough so that the result of the election would really legitimize him likely to the gan seem like the whole russian population voted for him for now, if there had been no this victory he would have failed to do this to achieve this end it would have become obvious that the he stole the election. he has told the victory it was not genuine victory, but now with this strong background of military achievement, he might produce
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the impression which would allow him to get additional injection of legitimacy, which really badly needs with all his ratings going down for two years there are two russian media outlets reporting that mourners at memorials for alexey navalny are being detained they are also being given summonses to report from military service, which is a pretty big punishment here. could that backfire? or is his response? so punitive, so aggressive that the effect is that it totally crushing dissent well narrow laser, definitely backfire because this discontent is growing. and at some moment it will become so strong. probably it would happen at the moment of military defeat or some military write something like what happened during prigozhin
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stein, or maybe at some other moment. but it will explode and with very strong actually, you know, the crackdown is very strong now, so i'm not expecting anything like an explosion or revolution to happen right now, but it's just gaining, you potential the vast majority of the population, not proponents of the physician. those who were previously loyal to put in, but they don't like this craig down and they are becoming more and more, you know, like i'm loyal abbas, i also want to ask you about navalny's death because his family, his team, >> many others look at this and they say, putin is behind navalny's death. of course, the kremlin denies that but if we examine that as a possibility, why would putin choose now to have navalny killed if that's what has happened here it's very complicated and dynamics inside
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the russian politics in putin's onto russian, russian cillizza in general >> this technocratic group plus hold them like this, which are there not dusk. they're just more technocratic who are against escalation. they suffered a big defeat. the actually let putting down very strong because they allowed this opposition candidate has nadezhdin two start the procedure together in signatures to have himself registered or the election. >> and this the thing opened, made an opening in the brick wall over southern russian people felt that it was not punishable to display their anti-war sentiment by giving signatures. and so the whole country lined up in this long queues, people were standing in lines in nigeria porter's trying to give their signatures to support him. and so he feels that like since discontent is
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growing and it's being the only thing you can do is really to chop off heads all the opposition leaders so that at least lead this discontent be like unstructured so that literalists, because like the election is coming and what if this leaders, then they're trying to organize some kind of activity anti-putin activity so it's better for them to be totally disorganized. >> russians may want an alternative, but certainly there alternatives are diminishing. we're seeing that before our eyes. abbas gallyamov, thank you so much for your time this evening. >> thank you very much >> outfront. next we'll speak to the boyfriend of the american who is now being held in russia after allegedly donating money and a small sum at that. do a ukrainian charity. >> sure. >> he just received a letter from his girlfriends. so what is she saying to him tonight? plus? republicans just wrapping
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>> anderson cooper 360 >> tonight at eight on cnn tonight, detained in russia, new details about the thirty-three-year-old from los angeles who is now behind bars >> in russia, aren't of treason for allegedly donating about $51 to a ukrainian charity, her boyfriend, chris van heerden, who were going to speak with here in just a moment, is telling out front that she went to russia on january 2 to visit her family almost immediately was picked up by russian authorities, but then was released and then arrested again this month. van heerden, who also just received a letter from kasenya, calls her the sweetest, kindest person that you will ever meet. someone full of love and joy. >> but now >> this woman who was a u.s.-russian dual citizen is facing years in prison. the possibility of that because russia is accusing her of quote, providing financial
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assistance to a foreign state in activities directed against russian security. and tonight, according to the the state department, the kremlin is so far refusing us officials to have any contact with a karelina >> russia's not recognize dual citizenship, considers them to be russian citizens. first and foremost. and so oftentimes we have a difficult time getting consular assistance, but we will pursue it in all matters where a us citizen is detained. >> matthew chance is outfront, live in moscow for us and matthew, what are the russians saying about karelina is detention here? >> well, they say they've remanded in custody until april and they're also putting a bit more detail on what she is suspected of doing. a statement from the fsb, which is the federal security service said the old kgb their press office saying that since february 2022, she proactively collected money in the interests of
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ukrainian organizations, which was subsequently used. it says to purchase medicine items, equipment, weapons, and ammunition for the armed forces of ukraine. in addition, in the united states the fsb says she took part in public rallies in support of the kyiv regime. so pro, pro-ukrainian rallies now, these don't sit, this doesn't seem like much, but in the context of the environment in russia right now, where there is deep suspicion to anybody you shows any kind of dissent this was enough to attract the attention of the russian security services and to actually now charged with treason incredibly serious crime, obviously in which if she's found guilty, she could face up to 20 years in prison. and so it really is astonishing that someone like kasenya karolina, who is my understanding, works in a beauty parlor in los angeles. she's not an activist at
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necessarily already or are a campaigner in any way that she should be targeted in this way by the russian authorities? >> all right, >> matthew, thank you for that report outfront. now, chris van heerden who is the boyfriend of kisenya, a karelina chris first just tell us a little bit about kasenya. what should people know about who she is? >> she's sees the light of the room. she's very positive, very friendly, very happy, very funny girl. that's because so much life. in she's so alive full of joy. and i'll tell you what anybody that gets to speak to a falls in love with that because that's who she is just a light. she says she's so kind she sees the good. >> everyone believed me she is unbelievable. she's just she's unbelievable. >> chris, i know this is very difficult. the situation that she's finding herself in and you are going through with this. can you tell us a little
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bit about the circumstances of how she decided to go to russia, how she was detained, and if she had any fear that anything like this could happen she had no fear. she was so proud to be going home. she's i mean, she's so proud russian as she is american. but she was this excited to go. jasmine, almonor while there was a pandemic there's a war. so she hasn't been a while. she was excited to as more worried about not being around a grandparents. and then they are very old and she wanted to spend time with grandparents so i of course water plane ticket for both than a surprise in this. it's hard for me because i bought that plenty get but she had no idea. we had no idea and then we went to eastern move for new year's spent four days in istanbul when and where she went on to go home. and i came back to la and i remember
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the last conversation she was so happy that she would be able to see a moment. dad and grandparents and little baby sisters, eight years old and yeah. i mean, the flight from instable to a hometown, you can invoke was flowers and my flight back to la is 14. so but the time i got back to la are supposed to have a message and i didn't and i reach out to her and no reply. and a couple of hours later, she followed me and she told me what happened and she got detained as she entered >> she was detained she was she entered, but then she was released. and at that point, did she have no worries that anything further would happen? tell us about that. what happened before she was ultimately detained? >> all i know all i know is when she got to tighten released, they send it back home. she was able to go see family and i do know they kept
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her phone. they held onto a phone, so meaner contact through through a mother's phone >> but as time lid on to her coming back, which is about three weeks like we never spoke about and she didn't want to speak about anything two days before flying back to la, i had to ask i see there's everything good. you coming home right. that pick up a day knowing she doesn't have a phone yet and she was told not to leave a city and she said, yes, he said babe, it's it's it's all good. i spoke to them and they said i can come and get my phone and it's all good. and i remember the last hour before all of this happened was she was so excited and relieved that nothing is wrong and she can go home. and it was a friday the morning, then russia, which means it was thursday night year. i went to bait and i woke up the next morning. and i never heard back from
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>> and you saw this video, which we are seeing, you have since not spoken to her but you have just received a letter from her. can you tell us anything about what she said and if you know anything about the conditions that she's facing sorry. >> i'm sorry just wow >> the letter she she's more worried about me >> that who she is. he's more worried about me and i'm like, as he's telling this beautiful, it's a love story. it is telling his beautiful memories that holding it gives you a motivation is all these good memories and but you also makes it clear that it's day by day one day she wakes up and she's so positive and so strong and believes that she will be home soon she believes in america. she believed that they will help her get home. and
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then one day, she says one day it's like this, sit on my bennis data wolf for hours, like knowing that i'm going to be a forever because that's what he's thinking i know she's safe she she she made it clear to me that she's with two people, two ladies. that's very kind and we're good and she's sccs got conversation in the and he's just telling all just more worried about me and that breaks my heart because she she's that ck is about everyone but herself in chris, i know. like i said, you haven't you haven't spoken to her, were you were you aware of this donation that she had made to a ukraine charity? i mean, it's a pretty paltry sum in the scheme of things here. did she talked about that? >> no. no. she like she she is so proud to be russian. i'll tell i mean that like she is so proud to be russian and she she
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doesn't watch the news. she doesn't intervene with anything about the war and she's proud to be russian and we never spoke about it. i she doesn't want to speak about it. she's just like, you know like i said, if you saw how happy she wants to go home, she did not have a worry in a world. she did not for the life of a thing but she would be in this situation >> so when you see because ahead of her next hearing, which is february 29 the russian government is accusing kasenya of treason, which could bring this sentence of up to 20 years in prison what goes, what goes through your mind as you hear that? >> knowing kasenya is that's the difficult bodies. i know who she's she's she's so full of life. she needs to be at the sensory, needs to be with a french. she needs to live life because she loves life and knowing that this this is the
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same woman that she's a beauty as citizens is a full-time institution. this is who she is. >> she takes care of yourself and knowing that we she is right now, she cannot take care of us. know how mad that drives her because she's gotta wash your face. she's got to do. in this eagles, it's got to take care of her skin and knowing to you to just read in year life sentence in 20 years hurts. it's really difficult to get that then the only thing that really helps me right now and then i'm sure she'll i don't know, but it's the fact that you guys, the media show so much love and support them i believe in america, i do believe that america will bring it back to me and that's the hope i'm holding onto chris listening to you're talking about the small things she enjoys that you were so sad
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that she will not be able to and we thank you so much for sharing with us about kasenya and we'll stay in touch with you. thank you. >> and if this means anything like, i know she's got a code during in the 29th she's got to be a game. and what i just learned, if she was supposed to have one yesterday and she did not have a lawyer to represent it now, i do understand people are afraid to touch this, but we do have loy's that's willing to help and it's insane amount of money. so we've created a gofundme page that which will be active soon in god, like god forbid people, god willing people will just help and let's show that she just know it broke my heart to know she said then she, didn't even have a lawyer too. it's just want to help anyway. >> please. i know i know chris that is such a huge concern for you right now. and we thank you
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so much for speaking about her with us. thank you. >> thank you so much >> chris van herding. we appreciate your time tonight. outfront now, is andrei soldatov, russian investigative journalist whose website has been blocked in russia andrei, what did you think of what you just heard there from kisenya, a karelina is boyfriend >> well, it is clear that the local office of the fsb was task2 keep tabs on everyone. if an american passport and region. so that's why they detained here immediately and after that way, informants, headquarters offset has been moscow. and after that, it was up to moscow the headquarters of fsb in moscow to decide what to do about here so that is why she wants to tens of second time to find something which my incriminate here. so either they hacked her devices and the
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founder information about this transfer, or maybe they had some information prior to arrest, but it is absolutely the clear to me that as a main goal of the whole operation is to build up a bank of hostages with american passports. >> so that's the motive is you see, it is to build up a bank of hostages yes, absolutely. moscow wants desperately to have a conversation webs american sounding need to have some leverage. the more americans vague and a have as hostages is a better to them so you think it's very possible because now we're learning from her boyfriend. she was initially detained. they took her device. she was actually using a relatives device to then contact someone else's phone to contact him. >> you >> think that they learned
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about this donation, which is a small sum. i mean, we're talking $51.80 to first responders in ukraine to do you think that they just took that from her device? what do you think the likelihood is that they are tracking that kind of thing more broadly? >> of >> russian americans who might be returning home to see family or so on >> i think there's two options are equally possible. they could find this information on her device. it is absolutely possible they had time for that. but also they could have some information prior to coming to you can book because of course, russian security services, as we know, that getting more and more active at infiltrating while banking systems used to fondant do to help refugees. and civil
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society in ukraine, n and russia. so it's about both opportunities are all possible. >> andrei soldatov, thank you for being with us outfront next president biden's brother grilled by republicans as the gop tries to salvage their impeachment inquiry. now removing any mention of the man that was there star source of information on the bidens plus a cnn investigation into a strike on a un convoy that was carrying crucial aid to people in gaza that convoy was promised safe passage, but it was hit >> when you by or sell your car exactly how you want with cargo bruise. you might begin to wonder what if you could do things your way all the time
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just moments ago, house republicans wrapping up an interview with president biden's brother behind closed doors as they >> try and push through their effort to impeach the president. this sit down lasting more than eight hours and happening despite the fact that the gop star source for information on the biden family was just indicted for lying those lies had been the centerpiece of the republicans impeachment push top house republicans, including congressman jim jordan, pointing to an interview, the informant alexander smirnoff did with the fbi form describing this called a 1023 the most corroborating evidence we have is that 1023 form from the highly credible confidential human source >> the most corroborating evidence now not so much what's mute, i've said is not true. would you concede that? >> well, yeah, that's what the fbi saying >> evan perez is out in
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outfront in washington and evan, i know that you've been digging into spin-offs background here, his history with the fbi, what are you learning? >> well, brianna, we learned that as early as 2020 when smirnoff first tells the fbi these allegations about joe biden and hunter biden that they were getting there. we're gonna get $5 million a piece from this ukrainian company burisma, that the fbi believed or had reason to believe that he was lying, that they could not corroborate at least some of the claims that he was making. and there was some suspicion that at least some of the claims were false the question is, what happened after that? what we know is that scott brady, who was us attorney in pittsburgh, who had been assessing some of these information that he turned it over to david weiss, the us attorney in delaware, who it has indicted hunter biden in a couple of cases and he's the one who's now charging smirnoff with these flying to the fbi with his false claims
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so the question is, brianna, what happened in intervening three years during which time of course, republicans kind of latched on to this and have ran with it, including making it public. we also know brianna that is no indication that smirnoff was ever polygraphed, which is a standard part of the fbi's process to vet sources. we don't know exactly why. we know that he was a source for some foreign intelligence services in addition to the fbi. that's part of the appeal in some ways for fbi when they're running these these informants. but really, the complications of running someone like this is part of what i think the fbi, the justice department, david weiss, are now facing questions over and i think you're going to here a lot more from members of congress as to why it took this long to unravel these alleged lies. >> yeah, lots of questions, evan, thank you for that report outfront now, democratic congresswoman katie porter, she sits on the oversight
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committee. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. can you tell us what happened at that closed-door hearing today? >> what we heard today was that there's no evidence that james biden i any engagement with the president or took or that president biden took any official action on his behalf. this is remarkably consistent. once again, and what we learned is there is no evidence that president biden committed an impeachable offense. and so republicans have said this was about following the evidence. it has been followed to a dead end. and now i think it's time to look at the evidence going the other direction. what we're learning about possible it's russian interference in our democracy >> i want to listen to something that congressman matt said he left the meeting questioning james biden's credibility here it is. >> there are a lot of things
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that mr. biden saying in there. they're directly contradicted by documents >> are you aware of those contradictions? >> i have not seen any of those contradictions. and i think that if there was contradictions did exist, we would be hearing about them with some specificity and some detail. look, i think it's telling that republicans continue to conduct these proceedings behind closed doors rather than in the public like where the public can decide for themselves whether mr. biden, whether james biden is a credible witness. the reality is, i understand the need to look into allegations they have done that month after month after month. and what we have found on the oversight committee is no evidence to support an impeachable offense you say this is now a dead end very clearly. listened to what republican congressman andy biggs says talks about.
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>> no, no, because because there's other corroborating evidence with other other rooms the president do you think it's possible republicans still have other evidence aside from what they had from this informant given that this has been going on and is consumed, so much of the oversight committees time and work this >> year if they had strong evidence, we would have seen it long long ago. what the oversight committee needs to do is go back to working on behalf of the american people. this is a committee i've served on for several years. it's the committee where i got the center for disease control director to commit to free covid testing for every american where i held big pharmas feet to the fire, even with republican leadership, we've had productive hearings early in this congress about topics like unemployment fraud and it's just evolved into this wild goose chase. if
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republicans have good evidence, we would have seen it long ago >> as you said, this is republicans falling for russian disinformation. and certainly smirnoff is a faberge egg on the face for republicans but democrats have had something of their own before in 2017, when they pedaled, what was the later largely discredited steele dossier about trump and russia do you have concerns that the political animosity, the divisions are so severe? >> the >> both parties are vulnerable to furthering disinformation >> well, when any member of congress, democrat or republican makes an incorrect or false statement, that is a problem and they have to fully own that and so i think that did help feed into this culture of distrust and partisan bickering. but i think my job is to stay squarely focused on the people that i worked for the american people. if there
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was evidence of wrongdoing, i would be side-by-side with my republican colleagues in pursuing it, but there is no such evidence. and if there's not, it is not an appropriate use of taxpayer resources to continue to pursue something merely for political purposes when the oversight committee needs to be doing investigations into things like price gouging, needs to be tackling problems like the cost of prescription drugs congresswoman katie porter. thank you so much for being with us >> thank you >> outfront. next, a cnn exclusive, a un convoy delivering aid into gaza and coming under fire. it was promised safe passage. so why was it hit by an air? strike? and a small spacecraft barreling toward the moon. if it sticks the landing, it will be the first us moon landing in more than 50 years. >> why? would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel
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desperately needed aid to gaza. katie polglase is outfront this is how desperate the people in northern gaza are. this aid truck filmed at the end of january is one of the last enter the region. and here's why aid so often caught in the fighting now cnn can exclusively reveal that this truck carrying vital food headed for northern gaza was hit on february 5th by an israeli shell despite an agreement to provide a safe route, cnn has seen the internal un incident report and the correspondence between the un and the israeli military that show the root of this convoy was agreed upon in advance. and with starvation imminent for many across gaza experts say hitting a food truck is a potential war crime. >> looking at it with the available facts, it's really difficult to see how this could be a legal attack. and so at minimum, it would look like a very serious violation of
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international humanitarian law, whether it's also criminal, then depends on questions of intent >> the trucks that off as part of a un marked convoy of ten up al rasheed road in the early the hours, it reached an idf holding point at for 15:00 a.m. stationary for over an hour. it was then hit at 05:35 a.m. fortunately, no one on board was killed. the un says they were hit by israeli naval gunfire. and satellite imagery taken just two hours after the attack, cnn identity if i'd ships that could only be israeli naval boats they've been deployed along the coast and are attacking gaza from the west. >> we share with the israeli army the coordinates of the convoy. and only when the israeli army gives us the okay, the green light does so on move on. the purpose of this deconfliction process is to make sure that aid convoys don't get hit
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>> it's not the first time this has happened. many other aid trucks have been hit since beginning of this conflict. >> the >> un says northern gaza is still home to reported 300,000 civilians. unrwa says half of its mission requests to the north have been denied since january. and since this latest attack, they have taken the painful decision to stop trying to deliver aid to the north at all the idf says it's helping to cool it humanitarian relief in gaza. but aid agencies say they faced repeated delays while some staff are detained and even tortured. a un mission in december described one aid worker who said he was stripped, beaten and blindfolded. even when convoys are allowed through some routes are simply not possible. this large crater blocking al rashid road just weeks before it was designated by the idf as the main route permitted for humanitarian vehicles. >> such large percentages of the population are at such dire
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need. at such immediate risk of starvation from that perspective, it's really hard for me to understand what kind of potential military rationale could be advanced to justify actions like this. >> as the humanitarian crisis deepens the question is whether israel will be held accountable in a court of law for depriving so many in gaza of aid katie polglase, cnn, london outfront. next, >> the us attempting its first moon landing in more than 50 years. so how hard will it be to pull off and new secret service documents obtained by cnn reveal the biden it ends dog has bitten secret service personnel, at least two dozen times >> united states heats up scandal with jake tapper. sunday at nine on cnn or celie your home, real choice. celie lets you choose from multiple agent proposals
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terrifying and also incredibly difficult, more than half of all attempts have failed. kristin fisher is outfront >> we're just days after lifting off from florida. odysseus is now barreling towards the moon, sending back spectacular pictures of earth along the way, and is now hours away from the most perilous test yet, for the robotic lunar lander, a softer control hold landing on this surface of the moon, go for launch. intuitive machines is trying to pull off something. no private company has done. and if successful, it will be the first time in american made spacecraft has done it since the last apollo mission in 1972, we are steely eyed rocket scientists but down, this is quite emotional feeling to be here at this position, just last month of pennsylvania company asked robotic technology had its first lunar landing mission. and didn't failure. and last year, the japanese company, i space and the government of russia both crashed landers into the moon
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